Posts by James Jack

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S.A.D. Observations from the assembly.

by Darkknight757 in

so we had brother losch visiting our special assembly day which was weird in itself.

he's not a very good speaker and seemed like he was in dire need of a nap or something.. anyways just a few observations from the assembly program.

theme: imitate their faith.

James Jack

When I attended the Elder School in Patterson, He gave the concluding talk about loyalty to the BORG. I was enthralled with "his sincerity", talking about a splitter group from Romania and they were cut off from the Org in 1950 when the Soviet Union took over. Then when the Soviet Union collapsed and communication was re-established, these Brothers did not accept the changes to the Org (he mentioned smoking being a big issue). "It took a week of long nightly discussions and prayers" but "I always addressed them as Brothers", "Then me and another Brother with me were able to convince 3 of the 4 prominent Brothers in charge, representing some 75% percent of the publishers,(some 5000 people) to come back to the Organization. "

"The moral of this experience, do not be quick to Judge your Brothers who have doubts. Be patient, listen carefully, and display love"(he read Jude 22, "show mercy to those who have doubts"), "Jehovah will Bless your efforts". I was in awe! He had me and every Elder in attendance! We were listening to his every word, you could hear a pin drop....

Then he took a long pause, everyone was clapping hysterically, Then he said; "I have some Counsel for You Brothers about Sports, in particular a certain game where they mimic ancient gladiators, by putting plastic armor and pads, then brutally attacking their opponents, trying to injure them by going after an egg shaped ball." (Football)

I then came out of my "hypnotic state", and said to myself; WTF did he just say?

After he was done, we were dismissed. Many Elders were talking about the evils of Football. I kept my mouth shut for a little while(I really love Football). However, on the shuttle ride back to the Airport (this was a Van driven by a male Bethelite), there were

12 other Elders in this Van and I had to ask the driver... "How do the Bethelites feel about Pro Football?" He said: "Did you guys get that speech from Bro. Losch? I said yes. He then said: "Other members on the Governing Body do not share his view!" In fact, we here call him "NFL", No Football Losch". Some of us laughed, while others did not think that as funny. Then the driver looked at me in the mirror and said: By the way, I'm a Jets fan!"

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The new service meeting

by John Aquila in

i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

James Jack

9 hours ago

Fisherman: It is a longer meeting...

It is the same length. Our meeting went off without a hitch. Then again, our Elders are they exception, there are very engaging and pretty intelligent. We went 5 minutes over because they played the last twice(because it was a new song).

However, the other English Congregation went 20 minutes over, pissing many off!

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Bethel layoffs of oldies

by I am a Bible Student in

is this true?

has anyone heard of it?

saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

James Jack

I would not be surprised. Close sources(which I have already posted), have been calling me weekly telling me of non essential Bethelites being released.

Don't forget, that over a year ago, all CO's(no more DO's), over 70 were sent packing, no longer a Traveling Servant. So this News is not out line of what has been going on for years!

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Hello, I'm new here too!

by redpilltwice in

jw
friends

hi everybody, 1st post here.

20 years jw, elder for 6 years, regular pioneer for 3 years, have always been following the 2012 candace conti abuse case with much interest, especially since the case suddenly disappeared from www.watchtower.com's news section (thanks brother j. r. brown, office of public information, because it led me to "worldly" websites for more info), leading to more and more dissatisfaction , leading to jwfacts, jwsurvey, ad1914, wtdocuments etc., leading to my awakening about 4 months ago, now fading faster and faster to zero meetings and zero field service...and you know what?

it feels good!.

James Jack

Tell us more about yourself and how you carried out your responsibilities.

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

James Jack

A week before the Annual Meeting at all the Bethel Branches for Morning Worship,

Bro. Heard explained the slowdown in construction was to "re-group, to focus better on using the Lord's finances and concentrate on giving the Preaching Work first priority"!

At the Annual Meeting, he stated this again, but then included Bethel Staff reductions to be re-assigned back into the Field and a Major reduction in Special Pioneers.

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

James Jack

We went from 2 RBC projects a month to nothing to the past year and no talk of future projects.

I think the focus is to throw out a bone (1 project) in the larger cities to give a good impression that things are moving ahead, when in fact there been a HUGE SLOW DOWN!!!

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My Bethel Experience Part 4

by new boy in

black thursday september 1972. .

knorr gathered all the bethel "heavies" and gb to the kh in the 119 building.

the three freds (circuit overseers) and about 50 brothers.....thats right only 50. the other guys chickened out, they knew it was going to be a blood bath.

James Jack

People that want to go to Bethel to Serve, should be told the Good, the Bad and the Ugly!

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Blood Cards on File with the Elders?

by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

i have a question for elders here or recent elders.

were the elders, in the last 10 years, given instruction to keep a copy of every publishers blood card on file at the kh?.

we moved to our current cong 6 years ago, and shortly after we moved in, the boe requested everyone update and give a copy of card to the kh.

James Jack

I believe it came from the CO or it could from a KM.

The Elders are not that smart to come up with that on their own.

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Blood Cards on File with the Elders?

by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

i have a question for elders here or recent elders.

were the elders, in the last 10 years, given instruction to keep a copy of every publishers blood card on file at the kh?.

we moved to our current cong 6 years ago, and shortly after we moved in, the boe requested everyone update and give a copy of card to the kh.

James Jack

All congregations are supposed to keep a copy on file. The reason is in case of a Health Care emergency.

I know of 3 cases where an emergency occurred and families requested copy to deal with Doctors.

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Chaos at Brooklyn Bethel 12/2016

by James Jack in

this was how it was described to me yesterday by a brother who has been there for some 40 years.

"everyone is about gone; the governing body is set to leave within 2 months; the kitchen and laundry personnel are gone and i have to fend for myself now.".

"also the aggravation of 4 to 5 business men in suits with clipboards daily checking out the watchtower properties.

James Jack

He meant chaos in the sense in that there are not many Bethelites around who were always moving about with mission to accomplish. There is hardly anyone around or oversight being given. "Just keep this Place Clean, and in working order!".

"It's pretty lonely here"